[ILUG] OpenERP demo server

Fri Sep 16 15:13:13 IST 2011

> I presume working with ROS and all the other Irish goodies will involve
> writing an appropriate module, if such does not exist already.

Yep - I think the ROS/CRO stuff might not be "trivial", and it might 
also be a bit tedious/boring...

I think the VAT tweaks should be quite small, especially for some of 
those UK partners who might have already worked on the OpenERP VAT 
mechanisms.

that is.. of course... if Frank D. has not completed them already! ;-)

> None in Ireland unfortunately, but a few in the UK. It would be
> interesting to know how ROI for this compares to proprietary
> alternatives, and whether someone would take this on under a FOSS banner?

Hmmm... interesting...

But, in case it's a whole waste of time, first we'd need to ensure that 
there's no other similar FOSS "Cloud" system out there with these 
features already implemented!

> I will be happy to set you up with an admin account if you want to
> explore some more (you will be able to set up an instance from scratch).

Thank you - I'll email you offline...

   - Mike

> PS - In the setup the terminology used is "Anglo Saxon Accounting", not
> "UK Accounting" as I stated earlier.
>
>
> On 16/09/11 12:16, Michael Kennedy wrote:
>> Michael,
>>
>>> In my "playing around" I did spot a module for UK accounting. I presume
>>> that this may be the same as Irish accounting?
>>
>> AFAIK (I'm NOT an accountant!), all the main ledgers, etc, should be
>> fine.
>>
>> But, as mentioned previously, the ROS interfaces would be unique to us
>> (Ireland!), obviously.
>>
>> And the VAT system is very similar, but different:
>> - Our reporting periods are different (which should not be a major
>> problem):
>> - Our form layouts are different (not major?).
>> - Our handling of "Cash Accounting" VAT is different - for these
>> businesses, we run the Cash-Accounting scheme only on the Sales, and,
>> I think the UK approach is to run it on Purchases also.
>> - There are probably some other differences...
>>
>> I also had a quick glance at the demo - than you for setting it up:
>> - I could not see how to drill-down to details of products, customers,
>> VAT-tables, etc. Clearly, there's "buckets" of stuff in there, but it
>> was not obvious to me how to locate it! (My problem!).
>> - When I tried to look at Suppliers' "Forms/Lists", the system always
>> crashed.
>> - I had no problems with the server, screen images, etc, and never had
>> to "refresh" from the server.
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>>
>>> On 16/09/11 08:32, Bernhard Rohrer wrote:
>>>> The other thing that is needed for using OpenERP in .ie is a more
>>>> fully developed Irish accounting scheme and possibly support for Irish
>>>> Payroll.
>>>>
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>> ----------------original message-----------------
>>>> From: "Kevin Brennan" kevin.brennan at redsquared.com
>>>> To: ilug at linux.ie
>>>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:50:53 +0100
>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The api seems to be 'form' transfer based, so you can for example send
>>>>> in a 'p30 form' only. There is published XML schema for each form
>>>>> -http://www.ros.ie/PublisherServlet/offlineapps#Publications
>>>>>
>>>>> I would think it's within the scope of any final year student to add
>>>>> support for some forms. Of course the data presented within the form
>>>>> must also be correct ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a list of propitiatory software supporting each 'form' here -
>>>>> http://www.ros.ie/PublisherServlet/thirdpartysoftware
>>>>>
>>>>> ROS provide a development support email address
>>>>> rosdevsupport at revenue.ie
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering the commercial benefit (and what people shell out for
>>>>> commercial software) I would imagine some businesses, especially those
>>>>> using the erp software, would be also willing to donate.
>>>>>
>>>>> /KB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/09/2011 19:57, Frank Duignan wrote:
>>>>>> How well specified is the ROS interface - is it within the scope of a
>>>>>> final year computer science student to add this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15 September 2011 18:54, Michael Jonkermichael at reviveyourpc.ie
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Some interesting points regarding localisation for FOSS ERP
>>>>>>> solutions
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> raised in the previous topic on the thread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anybody is interested in playing around with OpenERP and
>>>>>>> addressing
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> of the issues (summarised below) , I have a deployment running on
>>>>>>> my home
>>>>>>> server:
>>>>>>> http://openerp.reviveyourpc.ie/openerp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> username: guest
>>>>>>> password: revive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Drop me a private mail if you want an instance with full admin
>>>>>>> privileges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to note - I am experiencing a small bug in the reverse proxy,
>>>>>>> so if any
>>>>>>> menu item seems stuck or the page just goes white - hit the browser
>>>>>>> refresh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Issues:
>>>>>>> -Tie in with ROS
>>>>>>> -General support for VAT
>>>>>>> -Support for the "accrual" and "cash-accounting" VAT schemes
>>>>>>> -Where needed, for the accrual scheme on purchases, and "cash
>>>>>>> accounting" on
>>>>>>> sales
>>>>>>> -Suitable GL accounts and report layouts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I know about accounting is more than dangerous, so I am unable
>>>>>>> to even
>>>>>>> ask the correct questions, but I do have an interest in OpenERP's
>>>>>>> suitability for the Irish market.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Jonker
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>>>>
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