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> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:37:37 +0100
> From: sdempsey <sdempsey at iol.ie>
> To: social at linux.ie, bernie at voyager.ie> Subject: [ILUG-Social] Use LINUX
>> I got real bored one day this week and this is the result
> Any comments and improvements will be dutifully ignored.
> Have a lot of fun.
>> Ladies and gentlemen of the class of '00: Use LINUX.
>> If I could offer you only one tip for the future, using LINUX would be
> it. The long term benefits of using lINUX have been probed by computer
> scientists, whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more
> reliable than my own meandering experience. I will dispense this advice
>>> Enjoy the poverty and meaninglessness of your win32 youth. Oh, never
> mind. You will not understand the poverty and meaninglessness of your
> youth until
> you've seen a BSOD for the 10th time in as many minutes or experienced
> the joy of a successful 30 hour compilation under LINUX. But trust me,
> in 20 years, you'll look back at your web archives and be very ashamed
> of your abundant activeX controls and your proprietary JFC code.
> Don't worry about the future. Or worry, but know that worrying is as
> effective as clearing out your Iexplorer cache to improve Windows
> stability. The real troubles in your life are that kind that blindside
> you at 4:55 on
> a 5 O clock deadline day when the NT server is on the blink and you
> can't open
> that f*&king word 97 doc with the word 95 on your hopeless underpowered
>>> Do one thing every day that scares you. Don't reboot. You won't need to
> if you use a real OS which won't suddenly develop strange afflictions
> and crash
> amid a multitude of stalled, unresponsive applications and abusive
>> Don't sing. Instead play your blade encoded MP3s as loud as your
> speakers can handle it.
>> Configure your sound card. Go to your distros homepage , trawl the web
> and find that driver. Sort out your locks and your IRQs.
> Don't be deterred by confusing documentation or little things like the
> unavailability of your driver.
>> Don't be reckless with other people's processes . Don't put up with
> people who
> are reckless with yours.
>> Floss . I know that your'e a programmer / admin type but try it anyway.
> You just might like it.
>> Don't waste your time on jealousy. Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes
> behind. The race is long and, in the end, LINUX won't crash.
>> Remember cookies you receive. Forget the memory leaks of Netscrape.
> If you succeed in doing this, please tell me how.
>> Keep useful LUG mail .Throw away the massive stack of dublin related
> motd/ potd stuff.
>> Stretch , your machine not your patience.
>> Don't feel guilty if you are still using Windows at 22. Help is out
> Just subscribe to your local Linux User Group , LUG (see below for
> details )
> Some of the most interesting people that I know still use Windows at 24,
> even if it is only to play half life.
>>> Get plenty of WINE. Be kind to your emulators. You'll miss them when the
> machines and OSs that they bridge are dead and gone..
>> Maybe you'll upgrade , maybe you won't. Maybe they'll eventually sort
> out all the library problems, maybe they won't. Maybe you'll dance the
> funky chicken
> while listening to MP3s at your 7 month linux anniversary party.
> Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much, or berate
> yourself either. Nah go on , congratulate yourself , you did the right
>>> Enjoy your machine. Use it every way you can. Dual booting might make
> happy and enable you to play unreal during those quite days at the
> Don't fear LILO and remember loadlin.
>> Dance, even if you are in the office. You've read the FAQs, looked at
> the sites and got your distro. You are now a player.
>> Do not read PC magazines. They will only remind you that try to tempt
> you into going down the windoze road to ruin with promises of free and
> exciting demos.
>>> Respect your hardware. Don't mess around with vidtune until your monitor
> explodes and start whinging about free software. Be nice to your
> libraries. They're the best way to link your programs and the files
> most likely to enable you to compile them in the first place.
>> Understand that kernels come and go, but with a precious few you should
> spend your days and nights configuring. Try to bridge the gaps between
> the standard setup and the desired bzImage kernel with all those useful
> things like networking and sound support because the older you get, the
> more you'll
> realise that you are better off not switching to windows for anything.
>> Go to an installfest once but leave before it makes you hard.
> Subsribe to social once, but leave before you start talking about the
> relevant merits of bicycles versus Buffy driven Toyota Yaris's ( sorry
> couldn't help myself)
>>> Travel, to potds , just to see what the hell several drunk computists (
> or more obvious titles) and their fluffy penguins get up to on a night
>> Accept certain inalienable truths: Linus is a god . You are not. You,
> too, will get old. And then you do you'll fantasize that when you
> were young you were a god, OSes never crashed and computer scientists
> were sex symbols.
> Unfortunately not.
>> Expect LINUX support to improve.
>> Be careful when choosing periphs, look up the relevant sites and make
> sure they are supported .
>> Remember this advice while remembering that adviceis a form of
> nostalgia. Dispensing it is a way of
> trying to recover the data from a corrupted file system by copying
> everything over onto a clean machine, salvaging as much of the FS as
> possible and
> hoping that everything important still works. Hmmm ... 15 minutes until
> I lose all this data....
>> Use LINUX
>> Trust me I'm a tux.
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> #######...shane D http://www.iol.ie/~sdempsey##########> QWERT (kwirt), n. [MW < OW qwertyuiop, a thirteenth]:
> 1. a unit of weight equal to 13 poiuyt avoirdupois (or 1.69 kiloliks),
> commonly used in structural engineering; 2. [colloq.] one thirteenth
> the load that a fully grown sligo can carry; 3. [anat.] a painful
> irritation of the dermis in the region of the anus; 4. [slang] person
> who excites in others the symptoms of a qwert. -- Webster's Middle World
> Dictionary, 4th ed.
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From: Adam D
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 9:32 PM
To: John W; Eric H; Chris W; Jack K; Noel R; Karen H; Sinead K; Craig D;
Shane D; Sean R; Robin P; wallacek; ldoylie; saiedm; clement
Subject: this is not sunscreen
If I could offer you only one tip for the future, alcohol would be it.
The long-term benefits of alcohol have been consistently misunderstood by
scientists, whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my
I will dispense this advice now.
Enjoy the power and beauty of your alcohol tolerance.
Oh, never mind. You will not understand the power and beauty of your
tolerance until it's faded.
But trust me, in 20 years, you'll look back at photos of yourself puking in
gutter and recall in a way you can't grasp now how much alcohol you drank
how fabulous it really was.
You are not as sick as you imagine.
Don't worry about where the next beer is coming from.
Or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to pull a page
model after 15 pints of Stella.
The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your
drink-addled mind, like the unexpected lack of ale in the fridge on some
Drink one thing every day that scares you.
Be reckless when buying other people drinks.
Don't put up with people who are reckless when buying yours.
Don't waste your time on shandy.
Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind.
The race is long and, in the end, it's only to the bar.
Make up compliments you received. Return the insults.
If you don't succeed in doing this drink more beer now.
Keep your old ring pulls. Throw away your old cans.
Don't feel guilty if you don't know when you might dry-out in you life.
The most interesting people I know didn't know at 22 when they would sober
Some of the most interesting 40-year-olds I know still haven't.
Get plenty of kebabs.
Don't be too kind to your liver. You'll hardly miss it when it's gone.
Maybe you'll pull, maybe you won't.
Maybe you'll get some bird up the duff, maybe you won't.
Maybe you'll enter rehab at 40, maybe you'll dance the nude conga at your
Whatever you do, congratulate yourself far too much and berate others.
Your choices are half alcohol influenced. So are everybody else's.
Enjoy someone else's body.
Use it every way you can. Don't be afraid of it or of what the lads might
It's probably the only time you'll ever pull.
Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but on the street with a can of
Ignore the directions, don't ever follow them.
Do not read beauty magazines, just cut out the pictures and put them on your
Get to know your parents. You never know when you'll have to tap them for
Be nice to your barman. They're your best link to the bar and the person
likely to stop you getting your head kicked by a bouncer when paralytic in
Understand that favourite drinks come and go, but with a precious flammable
you should hold on.
Work hard to bridge the gaps in strength and consistency, because the older
get, the harder it will be to neck ales like when you were young.
Live in London once, but leave before it makes you a ponce.
Live in Liverpool once, but leave before everything you own gets stolen.
Accept certain inalienable truths:
Beer prices will rise. Bouncers will throw you out. You, too, will get a
And when you do, you'll fantasise that when you were young, prices were
reasonable, bouncers couldn't catch you, and hangovers were NEVER as bad as
Don't expect anyone else to buy you a beer.
Maybe you'll have a huge overdraft. Maybe you'll have a wealthy bird.
But you never know when either one might stop getting you pissed.
Don't mess too much with alcopops or by the time you're 25 you will look
Be careful whose cheap booze you buy, but be patient with those who supply
Cheap booze is a form of rip-off. Dispensing it is a way of fishing old
from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the sell-by date and
it for more than it's worth.
But trust me on the alcohol.
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