[ILUG-Social] Re: [ILUG] Re: hmm...

[Paul Jakma]

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Rick Moen wrote:

> What I'm suggesting is that we may have sufficient motive to want to
> make it practical.

expensive option though, to make cockpit self-contained.

> On older propellor planes, such as my father used to fly (e.g.,
> transatlantic flights from La Guardia via the Azores to Gatwick),
> there were bunks in the cockpit area.
>
> I'd love to ask Dad about this, but unfortunately he's been among
> the metabolism-challenged, ever since Pan Am Flight 7, at
> Christmas, 1968.

he died in a crash? very very unfortunate. my sympathies.

> Oh, OK:  You mean we might be able to eliminate an entire category
> of blockbuster bombs that can be delivered against arbitrary
> targets?

try securing your airports. you still have the problem of /walking/ bombs.

ie, yes you can reduce this avenue of terrorism. but plenty still
exist, so many that i think you need a path other than internal
security measures in order to safeguard yourself.

> > perhaps the long-sighted answer is to make the world a more peaceful
> > place. eg, exactly why is it that a significant proportion of the
> > world's populace, the arabs, dislike the US - some to the extent that
> > they'll carry out suicide attacks against you.
>
> You know, I choose not to believe that you just had the unbelievably bad
> taste, not to mention lack of courtesy, to try to take out on _me_ your
> political difference of view with the USA's Federal government --

i'm not taking anything out on you. i'm pointing out a fact. hard as
it may be, it is true.

> especially hard on the heels of this grotesque tragedy.  I'm
> optimistically guessing that you're a better person than that, and
> not the opportunistic, ambulance-chasing, crusading ideologue that
> you would at first sight appear to be.

well... so you dislike the fact so much that you choose to attack me
personally. ah well.

fact remains, the arab world has 'issues' with you. why? and can you,
within reason, do anything about it?

if pointing out to you that the actions yesterday, though carried out
by extreme lunatics, originate from the same seed that exists amongst
a large body of normal and moderate people, makes me an 'idealogue',
then i think you're misleading yourself.

also, if pointing out that perhaps the true path to long-lasting peace
and security is to attempt to work out differences with your fellow
man makes me a lunatic in your opinion, then i'm honestly glad i do
not live in your world.

> Or perhaps some lunatic ripped your keyboard from you.  Perhaps that
> accounts for it.

nice... try using your nut and keep the conversation reasonable
please.

--paulj

also, let's take this to social.