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[ILUG-SOCIAL] persistent spam from one of your customers

[ILUG-SOCIAL] persistent spam from one of your customers

Justin Mason jm23948 at jmason.org
Thu Aug 28 19:14:15 IST 2003


Greetings.

One of your customers has been repeatedly spamming 2 public mailing lists
run by the Irish Linux User's Group, with sales pitches for "Selling for
Engineers" seminars, address lists of '40,000 validated, UK technical
company e-mails' for sale for UKP600, refurbished laptops etc.

Neither of the ILUG lists are 'contact addresses for a UK technical
company', for what it's worth.  I also have 1 spam sent to a personal
address of my own.  I did not opt-in to receive that mailing.

- BT Openworld: the sender is sending the spam via an IP in your range.

- Totalise.co.uk: the sender is using a totalise.co.uk email address.

He is sending as "Robert Seviour" <robertseviour at totalise.co.uk>, and
contact info in the mails lists Tel: 01481 720 294 and Fax: 01481 720
317.

Some messages on the public web archives:

  http://mail.linux.ie/pipermail/ilug/2003-June/004105.html
  http://www.linux.ie/old-list/49036.html  (23 Aug 2002)

See the attached message below for a sample spam.  I can provide 5 other
samples in full on request; here is a quick overview of subject lines and
dates.

  From: "Robert Seviour" <robertseviour at totalise.co.uk>
  To: <jm at netnoteinc.com>
  Subject: Engineers can't sell !!
  Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 10:40:36 +0100

  From: "Robert Seviour" <Robertseviour at totalise.co.uk>
  To: <ilug at linux.ie>
  Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:24:21 +0100
  Subject: [ILUG] (no subject)

  From: "Robert Seviour" <ky111jx at freeuk.com>
  To: <jm at netnoteinc.com>
  Subject: From Robert Seviour
  Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:27:14 -0000

  From: "SellingForEngineerSeminars" <SellingforEngineers at totalise.co.uk>
  To: <ilug at linux.ie>
  Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 16:09:27 +0100
  Subject: [ILUG] Change of company details
  [this is a misleading subject line -- the mail is instead the usual
  'selling for engineers' spiel.]

  From: "Robert Seviour" <SFESeminarsLtd at totalise.co.uk>
  To: <ilug at linux.ie>
  Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 11:09:41 +0100
  Subject: [ILUG] You are too expensive - I want a discount

--j.

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Subject: [ILUG-SOCIAL] Our next seminar dates
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Selling for Engineers           (One-day Seminar)

The Selling for Engineers seminar is a good introduction to effective sales
principles for people who are new to selling, and also a useful refresher
for 'old hands'.  It applies to selling both technical products and
intangible services.

Many Sales Engineers have been learning the technical skills of their job
for years but have had little formal training in selling.  This course
helps correct that imbalance.  
Typical job titles of delegates: Sales Engineer, Account Executive and
Business Development Manager.

Fee for this event is <A3>300 per person.




Telephone Sales Prospecting for Engineers       (One-day Workshop)

This event is a practical workshop teaching people in technical companies
how to find new customers on the phone.  It is applicable to business
development for both tangible products and intangible services.  The first
session addresses whom to target, what to say and how to handle problems. 
The remainder of the day consists of live sales calls with coaching from
Robert Seviour; the objective being to give delegates some positive
experiences of prospecting, make sales appointments and maybe sell
something!

Please note that this telephone sales prospecting event is restricted to a
maximum of six delegates to permit individual coaching.

Fee for this event is <A3>300 per person.


Closing Techniques Workshop    (Half day workshop)

What if the customer says:
        'It's too expensive'
        'We're happy with our present supplier'
        'I want to think about it'
 
Can you handle these common objections?
By far the most efficient way to be more profitable is to turn more of the
enquiries you receive into paid orders.  For this, the ability to resolve
objections is critical - either you close or you lose the sale.
And if you answer 'How much discount will you give me?' with: 'I'll ask my
boss', you waste profit, which could be yours with a better reply.
 
In only half a day I will teach you techniques which overcome these
objections and more. You will be able to use them immediately to win
profitable orders.
 
There is no need to lose business to your competitors or give big
discounts. 
 
Fee for this event is <A3>145 per person. 
 
 
If you have never had any formal sales training or need a refresher,don't
continue to work at a disadvantage. 
 

Reservations and information
Please contact us on: 

Tel:  01481 720 294     Fax:  01481 720 317

Here are the dates

Event                                                   Location                Date
Selling for Engineers Seminar   Edinburgh               Wed 3 Sept 2003 
Closing Techniques Workshop             Edinburgh               Thurs 4 Sept 2003
Selling for Engineers Seminar   Amsterdam               Thurs 18 Sept 2003
Closing Techniques Workshop             Birmingham              Fri 19 Sept 2003
Sales Prospecting for
Engineers Workshop                              Leeds                   Mon 22 Sept 2003
Closing Techniques Workshop             Leeds                   Tues 23 Sept 2003
Selling for Engineers Seminar   Gatwick                 Thurs 25 Sept 2003
Closing Techniques Workshop             Gatwick                 Fri 26 Sept 2003
Selling for Engineers Seminar   Belfast                 8th October 2003
Sales Prospecting for
Engineers Workshop                              Belfast                 9th October 2003
Closing Techniques Workshop             Belfast                 10th October 2003
Selling for Engineers Seminar   Dublin                  15th October 2003
Sales Prospecting for
Engineers Workshop                              Dublin                  16th October 2003
Closing Techiques Workshop              Dublin                  17th October 2003

If sales training is not an issue for your company please write the word
"DELETE" in the subject line and send it back to us. We will remove your
details promptly.


-- 
Irish Linux Users' Group [Social]
http://mail.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/social/





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