[Webdev] Project suggestion: PHP Website Framework

[adam]

> >I don't entirely agree, I would be inclined to make Mozilla the default,
> >and make it downloadable from the distribution site. I'm willing to
> >listen to reasoned argument though.
>
> Is this personal preferences making the decision or the marketing person
> (whom I'm sure is hidden deep down) ?
>
It doesn't go all that deep these days, what with my IrelandOffline
involvement. :)

There would be a lot of reasons behind this decision, but the main one would
in all honesty revolve around OSS evangelism. It's my view that to give the
project maximum functionality, intuitiveness and ease-of-use it would be
best to lock into one browser; so we know the capabilities we have available
to us, and we don't have to fiddle about with making it cross-browser
compliant. Choosing MSIE would be the easy choice here, but in my opinion
since this software will be OSS, and ostensibly free (in monetary, not FSF,
terms), it should attempt to give something back to the OSS community.
Mozilla, and our insistence on it, would be the return. Yes, MSIE is the de
facto standard browser, but I would be inclined to say: "We're giving you a
cool tool for nothing. The price you have to pay is a small download. If you
don't like that, tough."

> I'm going to take a really bad example here, but its the only analogy I
> can come up with OTOH. Countless Micros~1 proggies require MSIE 5.5 (5.0
> won't do) or WMP 12.3 (god no, 12.2999 won't do at all at all) or DirectX
> 34.71467 or they won't work / install. This sickens me no end - being
> stuck in Windows at work. I think software should only force a user to
> install large bloated packages when it is absolutely necessary, not just
> cause its looks cooler if you do or it makes programming easier for the
> developer if you do. Let the end user use whatever tools they have at
> hand - which at the moment is most certainly MSIE.
>
Ok, I'll bite your analogy -- Microsoft software is proprietry; their "fee"
is closed, non-modifiable source code. We're providing a value-added
service: the source code, to hack at your leisure. Our "fee" is be Mozilla.
There always has to be a fee, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Even
RMS will agree with that.

> Sure. I'm on for it as long as its not just me and Adam arguing all day :P
>
Well, I already have another subscriber, so that makes three of us. :)

I'll let it run over the weekend and we'll see what happens.

adam