From: Liam Bedford (lbedford at domain wbtsystems.com)
Date: Fri 18 Feb 2000 - 16:21:50 GMT
Depends, IMHO if X is unstable, it causes the whole machine to fall over,
because it's running as root... the kernel based Frame Buffers improve
but not to the best possible...
I tend to try and make _important_ machines (or dev machines) run without
local X servers...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shane Dempsey [mailto:sdempsey at domain tssg.wit.ie]
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 4:06 PM
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Have you had your daily dose of reality?
> Hi aaron,
> I know what you are saying but for some strange reason
> 2 of the crashes managed to lock up the keyboard.
> I also interpret a crash as being something that causes all the
> GUI apps that I am running to be unceremoniously
> dumped while the os takes me back to a prompt.
> That irritates me greatly but I take your point.
> It doesn' t really reflect kernel stability. You could still
> happily run all kinds of networking apps on a machine
> where X crashes a lot without causing any problems
> for network users who are depending on it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aaron McDaid <Aaron.McDaid at domain compaq.com>
> To: Ilug (E-mail) <ilug at domain linux.ie>
> Sent: 18 February 2000 15:24
> Subject: RE: [ILUG] Have you had your daily dose of reality?
> > > My linux machine has been rebooted about 5 times
> > > due to problems with X and various apps
> > I assume you're referring to a situation where you couldn't
> log out or
> > X in a normal way
> > why? you shouldn't have to reboot because of that! if your
> window manager
> > hanging or whatever try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. That'll kill X for you.
> > It's also possible to restore some sanity by going back to
> the console
> > Ctrl-Alt-F1 and messing about there (it's the same as
> Alt-F1 or Alt-F2 to
> > swap virtual consoles if you aren't in X) . Such as SIGKILL
> the wm and
> > restart it (this keeps your X-apps your running). But
> that's getting a bit
> > complicated.
> > If neither of these is working only then should you hit
> Ctrl-Alt-Del or
> > forbid hit the reset button.
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