Re: [ILUG] Er, while I'm here...

From: Dave Rynne (dave at domain esat.net)
Date: Thu 20 May 1999 - 01:24:54 IST


Paul Mc Auley <pmcauley at domain iol.ie> wrote:
) dave at domain esat.net said:
) | Not wanting to be the one to get picky about this ... but how much of
) | lugh's resources does ILUG use?? (disk only as that's all we're
) | talking about here). And with the exception of the mail archive, how
) | often does the ILUG tree(s) change?? This doesn't strike me as
) | necessarily being all that beneficial to ILUG itself. One could argue
) | that little more than a zip drive would probably suffice.
)
) Try asking an account or Livingston hire how much the use (or lack of) a PC
) for a year is worth. IMHO a backup unit and the media to run in it is
) getting off lightly. :) A strong backup (and I wouldn't count ZIP disks
) myself).

I used zip disks purely as an example -- note the "little more
than a..." part. I wouldn't back anything up onto zip disks myself
but used them as the example simply coz I couldn't think of much
else of similar capacity that
 a) isn't the size of a washing machine
and
 b) media is actually easily available for.

Also, skynet/UL CSN also provide some services for ILUG, maybe
they need a tape drive too ?? guys -- don't even mention it ;)
Just how much disk is ILUG actually using (inc the apache config
stuff) -- 100 MB ? 200 MB ? Can't see it being much more than
that atm (but I could of course be wrong and yes it will grow).
We could just buy a pair of 2 or 3 GB disks and mirror them
(yeah, I know - then we've no off site backup, etc..)

But lugh is the main ilug resource atm and ilug does use more
than just it's disk, and I did agree that a tape drive is
worth getting but:
 1. do we really need to buy one ?? A couple of people have
    already offered some older drives/units to ilug. These may
    not be suitable but someone may be willing to donate
    something that is. Even a SCSI card would be a step in the
    right direction -- SCSI II will do fine as I've yet to come
    across an UW (or better) tape drive. One of those stripped
    down controllers for CD writers may suffice (I'm not sure
    just how dumb these are so maybe they wouldn't do the trick).
 2. as kevin (??) pointed out, the drive should stay with the
    lug. And should the lug cease to exist, it gets passed on
    as the IUUG did with the money they had.
 3. there has to be token opposition from someone :(

) I would bear in mind that somebody would have to rotate tapes
) periodically.

I would assume that Indigo provide this service. I know some of
our webfarm customers have made arrangements for tapes to be
rotated periodically for them. Otherwise someone (presumably
Colm) would have to troop down to Crown Alley every so often to
change a tape and this presumably has already been thought of.

) Paul.
)

Dave (tired and being a cynical bastard yet again)



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