From: John Moylan (john at domain nua-tech.com)
Date: Wed 19 Jul 2000 - 15:41:06 IST
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Dell Optiplex GX110 graphics card problem (Colin Whittaker)
> 2. StarOffice and the GPL (Caolan McNamara)
> 3. [OT] moderation on /. (Donncha O Caoimh)
> 4. Re: compiling windows programs on linux (Philip Reynolds)
> 5. Re: StarOffice and the GPL (John P. Looney (Kate))
> 6. Lap Top (Jason A. Corcoran.)
> 7. RE: Dell Optiplex GX110 graphics card problem (Brian MacNamara (EEI))
> 8. Re: Lap Top (John P. Looney (Kate))
> 9. Re: compiling windows programs on linux (John P. Looney (Kate))
> 10. Re: LAP TOP QUESTION. (Dave Airlie)
> 11. BOFH's back (Noel Carroll)
> 12. Re: StarOffice and the GPL (Brian Scanlan)
> 13. Re: Dell Optiplex GX110 graphics card problem (John P. Looney (Kate))
> 14. Re: BOFH's back (Donncha O Caoimh)
> 15. Re: compiling windows programs on linux (Philip Reynolds)
> 16. RE: compiling windows programs on linux (Guest, Ken)
> 17. Re: Few questions (Philip Reynolds)
> 18. Dell Optiplex GX110 graphics card problem (Brian MacNamara (EEI)) (warren daly)
> 19. Re: Loadlin Questin (Conor Daly)
> 20. Re: StarOffice and the GPL (Caolan McNamara)
> 21. Re: compiling windows programs on linux (John P. Looney (Kate))
> 22. Re: StarOffice and the GPL (John P. Looney (Kate))
> 23. Re: compiling windows programs on linux (Donncha O Caoimh)
> 24. RE: StarOffice and the GPL (McDaid, Aaron)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] Re: Dell Optiplex GX110 graphics card problem
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:01:57 +0100
> From: Colin Whittaker <grimnar at domain redbrick.dcu.ie>
> Organization: Neuro Inc.
> To: "Brian MacNamara (EEI)" <Brian.MacNamara at domain eei.ericsson.se>
> CC: "'ilug at domain linux.ie'" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
> References: <C33B0DC7F356D311B02C0008C7E6A7C50257E48C at domain eiedbnt501>
>
> Brian MacNamara (EEI) stated the following on Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:37:38PM +0200 :
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to configure X Server for a Dell Optiplex GX110.
> > The graphics card is an Intel Direct AGP embedded in the Intel 810e chipset. Can anyone tell me what card to select from the list in XF86Setup as none of them seem to work, or what module would work. I've tried looking at various driver databases for the card but no success.
> > As an alternative can anyone recommend a cheap SVGA graphics card that will definatly work. I'm running Slackware 7 with kernel version 2.2.9.
> > thanks.
>
> I'm using the SVGA driver but with the agpgart module form the intel
> site, you'll have to get a patc hfor the kernel to support this,
> the intel site also has an X server for the chipset, never could get
> that to work.
>
> --
> I guess, I relate more to a satanic chicken and an over sexed
> goat more than tech support people :)
> -- orly
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] StarOffice and the GPL
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:14:01 +0200
> From: Caolan McNamara <cmc at domain stardivision.de>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> http://slashdot.org/articles/00/07/19/1226223.shtml
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.07.00-001/
>
> Well the world and his dog seems to know now that the
> public announcement is this evening as to what we're
> doing. Har, I think I now work on the biggest GPLed code
> base in the world. Mozilla is a wimp. SO'd a fully
> featured webbrowser of our own built right in.
>
> C.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] [OT] moderation on /.
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:10:36 +0100
> From: Donncha O Caoimh <donncha.ocaoimh at domain tradesignals.com>
> To: ILUG <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> woo! I get to moderate on slashdot!
> Ok, it's not such a big deal, but first time I came across the function
> and the explanation at http://slashdot.org/moderation.shtml is
> interesting..
>
> Donncha.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] compiling windows programs on linux
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:18:32 +0100
> From: Philip Reynolds <phil at domain redbrick.dcu.ie>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <831D1A07A4B1D31186DA00062950FA57397CBC at domain _CB_MAIL> <20000718104737.G1511 at domain digiserve.ie>
>
> John P. Looney (Kate)'s [jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie] 17 lines of dribble included:
> :>On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 07:06:48PM +0100, Noel Carroll mentioned:
> :>> Does that require WINE? Haven't seen the url but sounds good. I'd be wary
> :>> of the fucked up nature of dll's though.
> :>
> :> No, it's just a version of GCC that outputs a.exe instead of a.out files
> :>;)
>
> You can recompile GCC to output windows executable anyways can't you?
> Phil.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] StarOffice and the GPL
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:18:40 +0100
> From: "John P. Looney (Kate)" <jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie>
> Reply-To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000719150132.00f90180 at domain sdmail>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 03:14:01PM +0200, Caolan McNamara mentioned:
> > http://slashdot.org/articles/00/07/19/1226223.shtml
> > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.07.00-001/
> >
> > Well the world and his dog seems to know now that the
> > public announcement is this evening as to what we're
> > doing. Har, I think I now work on the biggest GPLed code
> > base in the world. Mozilla is a wimp. SO'd a fully
> > featured webbrowser of our own built right in.
>
> How big is the whole lot ? I've never actually actually used the web
> browser...does it do Javascript/frames ? Can I start it in place of init
> yet, or does it still depend on X ? <grin>
>
> Kate
>
> --
> The words of the unwary are apt to cause needless pain and bloody violence.
> - Zen Master Greg
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] Lap Top
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:20:36 +0100
> From: "Jason A. Corcoran." <corcoranj at domain logica.com>
> Organization: Logica
> To: ILinux <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> hi there,
>
> I have found out that the Graphics card in my dell
> laptop is supported under XF86 4, but has any body
> got a FE575c-3Com 10/100 Lan cardbus- fast
> ethernet PC card working, with any flavour of
> Linux ?
>
> Thanks.
> Jason.
>
> --
> _________________________________________
> Jason Corcoran.
> SIT Core Team Leader.
> Logica.
> Wireless Data Division.
> Plaza 5.
> Harbour Master Place.
> Dublin 1.
>
> Phone: +353 (0)1 8193779.
> _________________________________________
> Linux is Like a WigWam No Gates, No Windows Just an Apache inside :o)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: [ILUG] Dell Optiplex GX110 graphics card problem
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:20:03 +0200
> From: "Brian MacNamara (EEI)" <Brian.MacNamara at domain eei.ericsson.se>
> Reply-To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> To: "'ilug at domain linux.ie'" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> I'm using atm modules and such for the 2.2.9 kernel so i don't want to get a newer kernel, any recommendations for a nice cheap SVGA card that will work with 2.2.9? i don't want to do anything fancy with it, just run X.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John P. Looney (Kate)
> To: 'ilug at domain linux.ie'
> Sent: 7/19/00 2:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Dell Optiplex GX110 graphics card problem
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:37:38PM +0200, Brian MacNamara (EEI)
> mentioned:
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to configure X Server for a Dell Optiplex GX110. The
> > graphics card is an Intel Direct AGP embedded in the Intel 810e
> chipset.
> > Can anyone tell me what card to select from the list in XF86Setup as
> > none of them seem to work, or what module would work. I've tried
> looking
> > at various driver databases for the card but no success. As an
> > alternative can anyone recommend a cheap SVGA graphics card that will
> > definatly work. I'm running Slackware 7 with kernel version 2.2.9.
> > thanks.
>
> Er. You need a very modern kernel, with the agpgart module, and a 3.3.6
> X server.
>
> Seeing as you are using slackware, I'll assume you are an expert, and
> can
> work out where to get & install those...
>
> Kate
>
> --
> The words of the unwary are apt to cause needless pain and bloody
> violence.
> - Zen Master
> Greg
>
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> information.
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>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Lap Top
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:20:34 +0100
> From: "John P. Looney (Kate)" <jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie>
> Reply-To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> To: ILinux <ilug at domain linux.ie>
> References: <3975AB24.F34BD68E at domain logica.com>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:20:36PM +0100, Jason A. Corcoran. mentioned:
> > hi there,
> >
> > I have found out that the Graphics card in my dell
> > laptop is supported under XF86 4, but has any body
> > got a FE575c-3Com 10/100 Lan cardbus- fast
> > ethernet PC card working, with any flavour of
> > Linux ?
>
> Most likely not, if you didn't get a reply the first time.
>
> I'd suggest looking at 3Com's website for linux drivers for that card,
> if you aren't happy with the GPL ones.
>
> Kate
>
> --
> The words of the unwary are apt to cause needless pain and bloody violence.
> - Zen Master Greg
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] compiling windows programs on linux
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:22:55 +0100
> From: "John P. Looney (Kate)" <jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie>
> Reply-To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <831D1A07A4B1D31186DA00062950FA57397CBC at domain _CB_MAIL> <20000718104737.G1511 at domain digiserve.ie> <20000719141832.F71045 at domain enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:18:32PM +0100, Philip Reynolds mentioned:
> > John P. Looney (Kate)'s [jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie] 17 lines of dribble included:
> > :>On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 07:06:48PM +0100, Noel Carroll mentioned:
> > :>> Does that require WINE? Haven't seen the url but sounds good. I'd be wary
> > :>> of the fucked up nature of dll's though.
> > :>
> > :> No, it's just a version of GCC that outputs a.exe instead of a.out files
> > :>;)
> >
> > You can recompile GCC to output windows executable anyways can't you?
> > Phil.
>
> Yes - that's how I'm getting GCC to make an a.exe (said windows
> executable), but that's not that easy either. I've gotten the GCC with
> MingW32 changes, but damned if I can get it to compile. I had a few
> problems with stuff like headers in dos format (macros break), and now it
> can't find stuff like "stdlib.h" and the like.
>
> Anyone know if I'm supposed to have separate versions of those for the MS
> Windows OS ?
>
> Kate
>
> --
> The words of the unwary are apt to cause needless pain and bloody violence.
> - Zen Master Greg
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] LAP TOP QUESTION.
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:35:15 +0100 (IST)
> From: Dave Airlie <David.Airlie at domain ul.ie>
> To: "Jason A. Corcoran." <corcoranj at domain logica.com>
> CC: ILinux <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> I got four of these laptops recently... but with Xircom cards, I'd say the
> 3com work as I think with PCMCIa it is just a 3c90x chipset on a PCMCIA
> card,
>
> you won't get the sound card working, not even with non-FREE OSS,
> Maestro-3 is an evil beast...
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Jason A. Corcoran. wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have a dell Inspiraon 3800, I am trying to
> > install Mandrake 7 on to it, dual boot with NT.
> > There is a small problem with the Graphics card
> > and Lan card. It can't register either of them and
> > there dose not seem to be any drivers for them.
> > They are a FE575C-3Com 10/100 Lan card bus-fast
> > ethernet PC card and the graphics card is a
> > ATI Rage Mobility-M1 AGP x 2.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanking you in advance,
> >
> > Jason Corcoran,
> >
> > --
> > _________________________________________
> > Jason Corcoran.
> > SIT Core Team Leader.
> > Logica.
> > Wireless Data Division.
> > Plaza 5.
> > Harbour Master Place.
> > Dublin 1.
> >
> > Phone: +353 (0)1 8193779.
> > _________________________________________
> > Linux is Like a WigWam No Gates, No Windows Just an Apache inside :o)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> David Airlie, Software Engineer
> http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at domain skynet.ie
> pam_smb / Linux DecStation / Linux VAX / ILUG person
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] BOFH's back
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:08:25 +0100
> From: Noel Carroll <Noel.Carroll at domain CardBase.com>
> To: "'ilug at domain linux.ie'" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> For thos interested, the BOFH has a new column in PCPlus starting this
> month. Normally an excellant magazine, this is one of the best reasons so
> far to shell out for it!!!
>
> Noel
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Noel Carroll
> CardBASE Technologies®
> BIM House, Crofton Road,
> Dun Laoghaire, Co Dublin
> Ph: + 353 1 2843233 Ext. 113
> Fx: + 353 1 2843220
> E-mail: Noel.Carroll at domain cardbase.com
> Website: http://www.cardbase.com
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] StarOffice and the GPL
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:30:01 +0100
> From: singer at domain redbrick.dcu.ie (Brian Scanlan)
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000719150132.00f90180 at domain sdmail>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 03:14:01PM +0200, Caolan McNamara wrote:
> > Well the world and his dog seems to know now that the
> > public announcement is this evening as to what we're
> > doing. Har, I think I now work on the biggest GPLed code
> > base in the world. Mozilla is a wimp.
>
> One of the major goal is a GTK port, eh? What, with the scrapping of
> OpenWindows from Solaris 9, I wonder will Sun bundle something like
> HelixCode.com's desktop environment...
>
> > SO'd a fully
> > featured webbrowser of our own built right in.
>
> Sure, won't sombody simply embed Mozilla into it once the code is out? ;)
> Actually, could StarOffice use Gecko? Makes sense...
>
> --
> Columnated ruins domino,
> Canvas the town and brush the backdrop.
> Are you sleeping?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Dell Optiplex GX110 graphics card problem
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:31:17 +0100
> From: "John P. Looney (Kate)" <jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie>
> Reply-To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> To: "'ilug at domain linux.ie'" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
> References: <C33B0DC7F356D311B02C0008C7E6A7C50257E48D at domain eiedbnt501>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 03:20:03PM +0200, Brian MacNamara (EEI) mentioned:
> > I'm using atm modules and such for the 2.2.9 kernel so i don't want to get a newer kernel, any recommendations for a nice cheap SVGA card that will work with 2.2.9? i don't want to do anything fancy with it, just run X.
>
> Electronic Boutique are selling TNT2s for £60 or so...bargain.
>
> Kate
>
> --
> The words of the unwary are apt to cause needless pain and bloody violence.
> - Zen Master Greg
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] BOFH's back
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:30:03 +0100
> From: Donncha O Caoimh <donncha.ocaoimh at domain tradesignals.com>
> To: Noel Carroll <Noel.Carroll at domain CardBase.com>, ILUG <ilug at domain linux.ie>
> References: <831D1A07A4B1D31186DA00062950FA57397CDC at domain _CB_MAIL>
>
> Are they reprints of the column in the register?
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/
>
> Donncha.
>
> Noel Carroll wrote:
> >
> > For thos interested, the BOFH has a new column in PCPlus starting this
> > month. Normally an excellant magazine, this is one of the best reasons so
> > far to shell out for it!!!
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] compiling windows programs on linux
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:37:52 +0100
> From: Philip Reynolds <phil at domain redbrick.dcu.ie>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <831D1A07A4B1D31186DA00062950FA57397CBC at domain _CB_MAIL> <20000718104737.G1511 at domain digiserve.ie> <20000719141832.F71045 at domain enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> <20000719142254.H29460 at domain digiserve.ie>
>
> John P. Looney (Kate)'s [jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie] 31 lines of dribble included:
> :> Yes - that's how I'm getting GCC to make an a.exe (said windows
> :>executable), but that's not that easy either. I've gotten the GCC with
> :>MingW32 changes, but damned if I can get it to compile. I had a few
> :>problems with stuff like headers in dos format (macros break), and now it
> :>can't find stuff like "stdlib.h" and the like.
> :>
> :> Anyone know if I'm supposed to have separate versions of those for the MS
> :>Windows OS ?
>
> Not in my experience. You sure you have the lib directories set properly?
> Try copying them to the cwd and using ""'s instead of <>'s to see if that's ur
> problem. There's some environment variable you have to set or use gcc -L.
>
> It doesn't sound like you need new headers, or else it'd barf up errors instead
> of saying it can't find them.
> Phil.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: [ILUG] compiling windows programs on linux
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:36:32 +0100
> From: "Guest, Ken" <kengu at domain credo.ie>
> To: "'ilug at domain linux.ie'" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> #-----Original Message-----
> #From: John P. Looney (Kate) [mailto:jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie]
> #Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 14:23
> #To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> #Subject: Re: [ILUG] compiling windows programs on linux
> #
> #
> #On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:18:32PM +0100, Philip Reynolds mentioned:
> #> John P. Looney (Kate)'s [jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie] 17 lines
> #of dribble included:
> #> :>On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 07:06:48PM +0100, Noel Carroll mentioned:
> #> :>> Does that require WINE? Haven't seen the url but
> #sounds good. I'd be wary
> #> :>> of the fucked up nature of dll's though.
> #> :>
> #> :> No, it's just a version of GCC that outputs a.exe instead
> #of a.out files
> #> :>;)
> #>
> #> You can recompile GCC to output windows executable anyways
> #can't you?
> #> Phil.
> #
> # Yes - that's how I'm getting GCC to make an a.exe (said windows
> #executable), but that's not that easy either. I've gotten the GCC with
> #MingW32 changes, but damned if I can get it to compile. I had a few
> #problems with stuff like headers in dos format (macros break),
> #and now it
> #can't find stuff like "stdlib.h" and the like.
> #
> # Anyone know if I'm supposed to have separate versions of
> #those for the MS
> #Windows OS ?
>
> Yep. There are different versions of stdlib.h, that said I'm comparing
> stdlib.h from
> Visual C++ 1.52 against that from Visual C++ 5.0.
>
> header from 5.0 version:
>
> /***
> *stdlib.h - declarations/definitions for commonly used library functions
> *
> * Copyright (c) 1985-1997, Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
> *
> *Purpose:
> * This include file contains the function declarations for commonly
> * used library functions which either don't fit somewhere else, or,
> * cannot be declared in the normal place for other reasons.
> * [ANSI]
> *
> * [Public]
> *
> ****/
>
> header from 1.52 version:
> /***
> *stdlib.h - declarations/definitions for commonly used library functions
> *
> * Copyright (c) 1985-1992, Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
> *
> *Purpose:
> * This include file contains the function declarations for
> * commonly used library functions which either don't fit somewhere
> * else, or, like toupper/tolower, can't be declared in the normal
> * place for other reasons.
> * [ANSI]
> *
> ****/
>
> Ken
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Few questions
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:41:06 +0100
> From: Philip Reynolds <phil at domain redbrick.dcu.ie>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <20000718122313.M1511 at domain digiserve.ie> <3.0.5.32.20000718123814.00984b40 at domain christy> <20000718130216.A3240 at domain suberic.net>
>
> kevin lyda's [kevin at domain suberic.net] 32 lines of dribble included:
> :>On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 12:38:14PM +0100, Thomas Degris wrote:
> :>> I would like to know if there is a web site or something like that about
> :>> all the linux functions programming, like a kind of reference. Thank you
> :>> very much.
> :>
> :>huh?
> :>
> :>pretty much every function in libc is in a section 3 man page:
>
> Man pages are not always intuitive.
> I use online references sometimes, it's nice to have examples there as well.
> The one I use and is pretty good is
> www.ee.mu.oz.au/linux/programming/
> Phil.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] Dell Optiplex GX110 graphics card problem (Brian MacNamara (EEI))
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:48:34 +0100
> From: warren daly <wdy at domain broadcom.ie>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <200007191301.OAA29679 at domain lugh.tuatha.org>
>
> >Hi,
> >I'm trying to configure X Server for a Dell Optiplex GX110.
> >The graphics card is an Intel Direct AGP embedded in the Intel 810e chipset. Can >anyone tell me what card to select from the list in XF86Setup as none of them seem >to work, or what module would work. I've tried looking at various driver databases >for the card but no success.
>
> >As an alternative can anyone recommend a cheap SVGA graphics card that will >definatly work. I'm running Slackware 7 with kernel version 2.2.9.
> >thanks.
>
> you can also download the drivers from Intel, there are install instructions there.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Loadlin Questin
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:23:46 +0100
> From: Conor Daly <conor.daly at domain oceanfree.net>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <39757438.71339033 at domain skynet.ie> <39757654.440A448D at domain skynet.ie>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 10:35:16AM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
> Raymond Kelly thought...
> > Bad sign to answer one's own posts I know. but it seems that passing
> > "init single" to loadlin seems to do the trick.
> >
> > Didn't spot it in the FM the first time I read it :)
> >
>
> Seems
>
> loadlin <vmlinuz> <root=/dev/blah> <runlevel>
>
> works also.
>
> --
> Conor Daly <conor.daly at domain oceanfree.net>
>
> Domestic Sysadmin :-)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] StarOffice and the GPL
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:45:43 +0200
> From: Caolan McNamara <cmc at domain stardivision.de>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000719150132.00f90180 at domain sdmail>
> <4.3.2.7.0.20000719150132.00f90180 at domain sdmail>
>
> At 14:30 19.07.00 +0100, Brian Scanlan wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 03:14:01PM +0200, Caolan McNamara wrote:
> > > Well the world and his dog seems to know now that the
> > > public announcement is this evening as to what we're
> > > doing. Har, I think I now work on the biggest GPLed code
> > > base in the world. Mozilla is a wimp.
> >
> >One of the major goal is a GTK port, eh? What, with the scrapping of
> >OpenWindows from Solaris 9, I wonder will Sun bundle something like
> >HelixCode.com's desktop environment...
> >
> > > SO'd a fully
> > > featured webbrowser of our own built right in.
> >
> >Sure, won't sombody simply embed Mozilla into it once the code is out? ;)
> >Actually, could StarOffice use Gecko? Makes sense...
>
> Look basically whatever changes that you would think that StarOffice needs
> are in progress. All of the *sensible* things that need being done are
> agreed upon here as well. I imagine that I can't go into detail until Oct
> but don't be getting all fired up to write obvious changes as we're well
> ahead of you
>
> C.
>
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> Subject: Re: [ILUG] compiling windows programs on linux
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:51:23 +0100
> From: "John P. Looney (Kate)" <jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie>
> Reply-To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
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>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:37:52PM +0100, Philip Reynolds mentioned:
> > Not in my experience. You sure you have the lib directories set properly?
> > Try copying them to the cwd and using ""'s instead of <>'s to see if that's ur
> > problem. There's some environment variable you have to set or use gcc -L.
> >
> > It doesn't sound like you need new headers, or else it'd barf up errors instead
> > of saying it can't find them.
> > Phil.
>
> I'm just compiling up GCC on linux. It can't find the stdlib.h file -
> it's not shipped with GCC. Do I have to copy it from a VC++ install ?
>
> Kate
>
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> - Zen Master Greg
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> Subject: Re: [ILUG] StarOffice and the GPL
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:52:19 +0100
> From: "John P. Looney (Kate)" <jplooney-ilug at domain online.ie>
> Reply-To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
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>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 03:45:43PM +0200, Caolan McNamara mentioned:
> > Look basically whatever changes that you would think that StarOffice needs
> > are in progress. All of the *sensible* things that need being done are
> > agreed upon here as well. I imagine that I can't go into detail until Oct
> > but don't be getting all fired up to write obvious changes as we're well
> > ahead of you
>
> Can you play homeworld through it ?
>
> Kate
>
> --
> The words of the unwary are apt to cause needless pain and bloody violence.
> - Zen Master Greg
>
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> Subject: Re: [ILUG] compiling windows programs on linux
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:49:34 +0100
> From: Donncha O Caoimh <donncha.ocaoimh at domain tradesignals.com>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie, ILUG <ilug at domain linux.ie>
> References: <831D1A07A4B1D31186DA00062950FA57397CBC at domain _CB_MAIL> <20000718104737.G1511 at domain digiserve.ie> <20000719141832.F71045 at domain enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> <20000719142254.H29460 at domain digiserve.ie> <20000719143752.G71045 at domain enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> <20000719145122.M29460 at domain digiserve.ie>
>
> I found stdlib.h on a rh5.2 box, I presume it's on my destkop machine
> too:
> $ locate stdlib
> /usr/include/g++/cstdlib
> /usr/include/stdlib.h
> /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00405/stdlib.ph
> $ rpm -qif /usr/include/stdlib.h
> Name : glibc-devel Relocations: (not
> relocateable)
> Version : 2.0.7 Vendor: Red Hat Software
> Release : 29 Build Date: Tue Oct 13
> 10:41:26 1998
> Install date: Tue Apr 6 16:40:22 1999 Build Host: porky.redhat.com
> Group : Development/Libraries/Libc Source RPM:
> glibc-2.0.7-29.src.rpm
> Size : 11975513 License: LGPL
> Packager : Red Hat Software <bugs at domain redhat.com>
> Summary : Additional libraries required to compile
> Description :
> To develop programs which use the standard C libraries (which nearly all
> programs do), the system needs to have these standard header files and
> object
> files available for creating the executables.
>
> Donncha.
>
> "John P. Looney (Kate)" wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:37:52PM +0100, Philip Reynolds mentioned:
> > > Not in my experience. You sure you have the lib directories set properly?
> > > Try copying them to the cwd and using ""'s instead of <>'s to see if that's ur
> > > problem. There's some environment variable you have to set or use gcc -L.
> > >
> > > It doesn't sound like you need new headers, or else it'd barf up errors instead
> > > of saying it can't find them.
> > > Phil.
> >
> > I'm just compiling up GCC on linux. It can't find the stdlib.h file -
> > it's not shipped with GCC. Do I have to copy it from a VC++ install ?
>
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> Subject: RE: [ILUG] StarOffice and the GPL
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:56:59 +0200
> From: "McDaid, Aaron" <Aaron.McDaid at domain compaq.com>
> To: "'ilug at domain linux.ie'" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> John P. Looney (Kate) said:
> > How big is the whole lot ? I've never actually actually used the web
> > browser...does it do Javascript/frames ? Can I start it in
> > place of init
> > yet, or does it still depend on X ? <grin>
>
> That's emacs you're thinking of
> ;)
>
> > Kate
>
> Aaron
>
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