From: kevin lyda (kevin at domain suberic.net)
Date: Wed 26 May 1999 - 14:30:41 IST
"John P. Looney" burst across the net:
> Not really. When a WindowManager starts up, and manages windows, all
>windows it manages are, according to X "Owned by enlightenment". So, if it
>crashes, or is kill -9'd all the Windows are killed too.
in actual experience i've never known that to be true. i've killed and
restarted window managers over and over and never lost a no-wm window
back when i used .xinitrc type setups (the last command was xterm, and
when i would accidentally log out of that i was pretty bummed though).
this was with all the wm's i played with - twm, tvtwm, ctwm, wmx, wm2,
fvwm, and fvwm2. hey, they're all out there, you have to try them!
and with the wmx and wm2 wm's it took a recompile to reconfigure them
so i actually had a shell script that would control the window manager;
looking for a wmx.new and if finding it moving it into wmx and restarting.
an almost daily occurance when i was first using it.
i remember looking through the wmx source code and seeing how it grabbed
new windows at startup (it had a bug) and it was a rather simple loop.
poke around for it, it's pretty tiny and readable.
> Worth every penny is our Rasterman. If he'd release a stable window
>manager, that didn't take X out every few hours, that is.
in fairness, i haven't seen enlightenment crash yet in redhat 6.0 which
i find stunning considering my previous attempt at it. and i leave x
sessions running for weeks. i'm sure it will considering how many bugs
it had at the beginning, and i fear seeing how much memory it consumes,
but methinks you're exaggerating a tad bit. :)
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