From: username (username at domain tcd.ie)
Date: Wed 03 Oct 2001 - 00:25:31 IST
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Red Hat in Easons.
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 00:51:38 +0100 (IST)
> From: Aidan Kehoe <kehoea at domain parhasard.net>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
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> Ar an 1u la de mi 10, scriobh Niall O Broin :
>
> > You're right of course - 5 of the last 7 years spent living in
> > Germany have polluted my mind. It does tend to make French
> > conversation very interetsing
> > :-)
>
> Hmm. Well, I can't speak German at all, so, umm, touche :-) .
>
> > It sometimes appears that hardly anything is OT here :-) and I certainly
> > wouldn't imagine that the subtleties of the GPL are. I'm not quite RMS bu as
> > it happens I do believe that the GPL license is the best free license. You
> > get the software free (as in gratuit) and you may do it as you will BUT if
> > you choose to sell it or otherwise provide it to others, modified or not,
> > they receive the same freedoms (liberte et gratuite) as you did.
like GPL but prefer BSD (or better yet zlib/png style license)
> But if you want to make a living from selling computer software, you
> can't use that code[1]. And if you can't make a living from selling the
> software, you don't have professionalism as as much of a
> motivation.
>
> Thus, NLS/Unicode isn't a factor ("Documentation in foreign languages?
> But doesn't everyone who uses *ix speak English anyway?"--yes, but
> purely because of this attitude.) Very few English speakers provide
> internationalisation hooks in their Free Software. You provide the
> documentation for an Emacs function *in the definition of that
> function*, so *everything* is documented, but *nothing* is translated.
My favourite Abiword certainly does and i have done a half assed irish localisation to prove it. And im sure Caolan will pipe up any minute now about how great Open/Star Office is.
If you know ilug well then you are borderling trolling (but some of my anti-GPL and BSD style license comments might be considered trolling and hell the headers clearly show what OS im using right now, but i blame Trinity, roll on OS X)
> > It just doesn't seem right to me that somebody can take others'
> > work and build on it and profit from it without giving anything
> > back.
>
> And if the person who provided the work was well aware that people
> would do that? But was sufficiently good-natured to do it all the
> same?
>
> > I suppose the Echelon watchers have me in the communist book now :-)
>
> Ah, anyone east of Bermuda is a red commie to them, anyway.
>
> Take care,
>
> Aidan Kehoe
>
> [1] CF. Ximian vs. Apple, who admittedly are a hardware company, but
> people are willing to pay a (substantial) premium for that hardware
> because of their software.
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