From: Liam Bedford (lbedford at domain lbedford.org)
Date: Wed 03 Oct 2001 - 10:12:06 IST
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 09:03:52PM +0100, Aidan Kehoe came forth with:
>
> Ar an 2u la de mi 10, scriobh Niall O Broin :
> > > [3] But we are distributing them with GPLed software. Now, how `based
> > > on' GCC (and groff, and Emacs) is a shrink-wraped OSX cardboard box
> >
> > It's not based on GCC. Created with, certainly, but that's not a question at
> > all.
>
> GCC, groff and Emacs are in the box, on the developer CD. You don't
> pay seperately for them. That developer CD isn't available
> seperately. Mac OSX isn't available sans developer CD. `... as part of
> a whole _which_ is a work based on the Program ...' Is that `which,'
> descriptive or normative?
>
That's a new version of MacOS X then. (Actually, if you buy a Mac, you don't
get the developer CD, but you do get OS X. If you buy OS X, you get the
developer CD. You don't get the source, but I'm sure Apple have figgered a
way out of that one).
> > > with several CDs inside? They're certainly inside the box. And a C
> > > compiler is a fairly fundamental tool on a Unix system, in
> > > fairndes. Hmm. Should quartz and Aqua be GPLed?
> >
> > One of the world's largest proprietary Unix vendors, Sun Microsystems,
> > haven't shipped a C compiler as standard with their Unix systems for years.
>
> True. Of course, they couldn't have done it were GCC not universally
> available and convenient ... downloading & installing GCC *was* the
> first thing you did with Solaris 2 , right? :-)
>
Nope. I know a number of people who wouldn't bother with a compiler on a
system. What's the need? All the freeware you need is at sunfreeware.com,
precompiled.
L.
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