Re: [ILUG] Re: [OT] more DSL

From: Matthew French (mfrench42 at domain yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Tue 10 Sep 2002 - 11:43:50 IST


Vincent Cunniffe argued:
> Although I'm fairly sure that only one user can actually bind
> a PPPOE stack to the service at any one time, so that user is
> going to have to provide a NAT service to the others anyway.

Not necessarily. We have 8 fixed IP addresses with our Eircom service, and
the modem (router?) we have works fine. Its the Zyxel 600 series device. I
think it supports NAT if desired.

Why would one want to use more than one PPPoE session? I am assuming that
NAT or appropriate routing is relatively easy to set up and does not affect
anything else.

> However, [i-stream is] demonstrably useless in the case of the 'multi
> user, multi PC networked environment' which the enhanced
> product is supposedly targetted at.

We find i-stream enhanced suites us just fine - and is a lot cheaper than an
equivalent leased line. Technically we have had no problems with it, and I
am a bit confused why one would want to use anything but bridged mode. I am
assuming the whole point of ADSL is to get faster, cheaper internet
connectivity, which it does. How it gets here is irrelevant.

We did have much fun and games with the Eircom sales people, who need a clue
or two... dozen. But we did our research up front, knew what to expect and
had very few surprises. The biggest surprise was that it worked first time
and that our mail actually started arriving when we moved over - Eircom.net
did not manage to stuff up the domain transfer like they have been known to
do in the past.

One must also remember the product pricing and differentiation is almost
purely marketing. The ADSL service is the same whether you pay for the solo
or enhanced package. What you can do with it is another matter.

Now: if someone would explain to me why we have to pay EUR500pa for
Eircom.net to provide a backup mail service which we will only need should
ADSL fail...

- Matthew

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