From: Fintan (fintanod at domain tinet.ie)
Date: Mon 11 Oct 1999 - 18:32:45 IST
Just as it happens, and to gloat, I win the Planet Football website of the week this week.
See sports section.
yaay
Fintan O'Dowd
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. interesting article (Vincent Cunniffe)
> 2. RE: Fw: Tutorials. (stephen_reilly at domain dell.com)
> 3. LAID in the Irish Times (Donncha O Caoimh)
> 4. Just to waste some clock cycles (Liam Bedford)
> 5. [OT] Arthur C. Clark silliness (John P . Looney)
> 6. Re: [OT] Arthur C. Clark silliness (David O'Callaghan)
> 7. Dial-on-demand question (Barry Redmond)
> 8. Monday morning blues (Robert Sweetnam)
> 9. Re: RedHat 6.0 (Donncha O Caoimh)
> 10. RE: Voice over IP; Esat slow (Jakma, Paul)
> 11. Neomagic Graphics, Portege and Suse 6.0 (Ruairi Roddy, The Examiner)
> 12. Re: Voice over IP; Esat slow (Donncha O Caoimh)
> 13. inodes (Peter Flynn)
> 14. RE: inodes (Jakma, Paul)
> 15. Re: inodes (Wesley Darlington)
> 16. Re: inodes (Nick Hilliard)
> 17. Re: Neomagic Graphics, Portege and Suse 6.0 (Dave Airlie)
> 18. Re: [OT] Cable Internet Access (Justin Mason)
> 19. Re: [OT] Cable Internet Access (John McCormac)
> 20. [OT] article in Sunday times, tv over telephone (Donncha O Caoimh)
> 21. Re: Voice over IP; Esat slow (Justin Mason)
> 22. RE: [OT] Cable Internet Access (Jakma, Paul)
> 23. Re: [OT] Cable Internet Access (John McCormac)
> 24. Re: 3c905C (Justin Mason)
> 25. Re: 3c905C (Steffen)
> 26. [Nearly OT} Stupidity of Linux? (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ronny=20Bangsund?=)
> 27. resellers for RH6.x (Sean Mcgrath - Sun UK - CS - Performance Engineer)
> 28. RE: resellers for RH6.x (Breathnach, Proinnsias(Dublin))
> 29. Re: 3c905C (Raymond Kelly)
> 30. Re: resellers for RH6.x (Vincent Cunniffe)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] interesting article
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:53:24 +0100
> From: Vincent Cunniffe <vcunniff at domain arbgroup.com>
> To: ilug <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue4_10/bezroukov/index.html
>
> Kevin Lyda gets a mention :-)
>
> Vin
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: [ILUG] Fw: Tutorials.
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 03:26:07 -0500
> From: Stephen_Reilly at domain dell.com
> To: proinnsias at domain clubi.ie, ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> Proinnsias,
>
> You'll probably get a barrage of URL's in response to this request
> as there is a lot of online "getting started" information out there. Still
> and all this is quite a good site and contains LDP manuals, HOWTO's and
> other such things :
>
> http://linuxpowered.com/
>
> You probably want to start with the tutorials, then LDP link.
>
> --Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Proinnsias Breathnach [mailto:proinnsias at domain clubi.ie]
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 2:48 PM
> To: ILUG
> Subject: [ILUG] Fw: Tutorials.
>
> I got this the other night,
> Anyone want to help / suggest anything ?
>
> There was mention earlier of setting up some sort of lessons
> / tutorials for
> users, here's an ideal candidate !!
>
> Proinnsias
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eugene O'Leary <eugeneo at domain esatclear.ie>
> To: proinnsias at domain clubi.ie <proinnsias at domain clubi.ie>
> Date: 08 October 1999 22:53
> Subject: Tutorials.
>
> Hi! Proinnsias,
> I live in Howth and got your e-mail address from the ILUG. I
> have only being
> using a computer for the past two years. I have done all the
> usual stuff
> with Windows95 like setting up web-pages, creating
> screensavers, learning
> Qbasic and a little Visual Basic etc.
> I recently purchased a copy of Red Hat Linux and after a lot
> of reading, I
> eventually managed to partition my hard drive so that I now
> have Windows95
> on a 2Gb. partition and a Linux Workstation on a 2.2Gb.
> partition. My
> problem now is to learn to use it for home use!
> I have my CD player set up and I have installed a lot of
> photos in my
> /home/user directory and can use the text editors, but seem
> to be stuck at
> that.
> I downloaded some themes this week using Windows. (My modem
> is a winmodem so
> I will have to buy an external modem to use with Linux.) I
> downloaded them
> to floppys and and then copied them to my /home/users
> directory but have no
> idea how to install them or what directory they should be
> installed in. I
> also got an extra CD with Red Hat which has a lot of extras
> on it. All I can
> do yet is read what is on the CD and copy some of the
> applications into my
> /home/users directory ( I seem to put everything in there!)
> but have no idea
> how to install or run them. I would like to learn.
> There is nobody here in Howth who has a clue about Linux. I
> asked two
> systems developers who I know, if they could help with some
> info. I got the
> stock answer; "what do you want to learn that for?". Not
> very helpful.
> I searched the web and looked up night classes in Dublin but
> no joy. The
> only classes that I could find were commercial ones which
> cost about £1,500
> and are not geared for beginners or home users anyway.
> I was also told that someone my age, ( I am 56.) would be
> too old to learn
> anyway! I was also told the same thing about touch typing
> and proved the
> begrudgers wrong. I can now type at 30 words per minute. I
> aim to prove them
> wrong again!
> The reason that I have contacted you is that I see that you
> live on the
> North Side and I was wondering if you know of any classes
> that I could avail
> of or even if you know, if there is a tutorial available on
> CD that would
> enable me to learn the basics. As I say, I only want it for
> home use. I am
> just interested in learning as much as I can, as a hobby,
> but none of the
> users groups seem to be geared for people like me.
> I would be very gratefull if you could give me any info. at
> all.
>
> Regards,
> Eugene O'Leary.
> 67 Grace O'Malley Drive,
> Howth,
> Tel. 8393631
>
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] LAID in the Irish Times
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:55:27 +0100
> From: Donncha O Caoimh <donncha.ocaoimh at domain tradesignals.com>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> Fiachra O Marcaigh kindly posted a link to cork.linux.ie and mentioned
> LAID in todays' Irish times "Compu Times".
>
> Have to update the page now!
>
> Donncha.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] Just to waste some clock cycles
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:05:48 +0100
> From: "Liam Bedford" <liam.bedford at domain wbtsystems.com>
> To: "ILUG" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> E 0.16 has been released...
>
> at this rate... it's going to be another 100 years or so before they get to
> version 1.0!
>
> L.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] [OT] Arthur C. Clark silliness
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:12:46 +0100
> From: "John P . Looney" <valen at domain tuatha.org>
> Reply-To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> To: Irish LUG list <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> It reads like something from the mid seventies;
>
> http://cnn.com/ASIANOW/asiaweek/99/0820/cs2.html
>
> Kate
>
> --
> Microsoft. The best reason in the world to drink beer.
> http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] [OT] Arthur C. Clark silliness
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:17:29 +0100
> From: "David O'Callaghan" <ocalladw at domain tcd.ie>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> At 10:12 AM 10/11/99 +0100, you wrote:
> > It reads like something from the mid seventies;
> >
> > http://cnn.com/ASIANOW/asiaweek/99/0820/cs2.html
>
> Damn! No personal hovercars...
>
> David
>
> --
> ~ David O'Callaghan <ocalladw / at domain / tcd.ie> ~
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] Dial-on-demand question
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:30:01 +0000
> From: "Barry Redmond" <bredmond at domain electronics.dit.ie>
> Organization: Dublin Institute of Technology
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> Hi,
>
> This isn't strictly a Linux question, but someone here may have
> encountered the problem before so I'll ask...
>
> I've set up an old PC as a Linux dial-on-demand gateway for a small
> LAN of Win95 machines. I've used pppd and chat and everything works
> fine, except that I've noticed that if a Win95 user closes down their
> Netscape browser when the dial-up link is down it causes the gateway
> to dial out. Does anyone know exactly what/why the browser is
> transmitting? Is there any way to stop it doing that? Is there any
> way to identify these packets at the gateway & prevent them causing a
> dial out?
>
> Thanks,
> Barry Redmond
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] Monday morning blues
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:30:28 +0100
> From: "Robert Sweetnam" <sweetr at domain indigo.ie>
> To: <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I installed Redhat 6.1 on a victim machine on Friday (Dell Optiplex GX1).
> All went fine and I was impressed with how easy it is to install, but of
> course I forgot to install some packages and the one in particular Im having
> trouble with is concerning recompiling the kernel.
> I forgot to install gcc,
> could anyone tell me quickly which RPM to install?
> Regards
> Robert
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] RedHat 6.0
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:44:51 +0100
> From: Donncha O Caoimh <donncha.ocaoimh at domain tradesignals.com>
> To: Mark Page <mpage at domain esatclear.ie>
> CC: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910091949400.814-100000 at domain localhost.localdomain>
>
> have a look at /etc/rc.d/init.d/sound
> also, run sndconfig as root (it's in one of the sbin dirs, either
> /usr/sbin/ or /sbin/ to configure the sound card)
>
> Donncha.
> PS. I don't agree with you about Gnome/E .. KDE is a bit more
> stable/mature, but then again my prefered environment is Window Maker
> and about a dozen RXVTs on different desktops..
>
> Mark Page wrote:
> >
> > Just changed over from SuSE 6.1 to RH and have to say Gnome/Enlightenment
> > and in addition general ease of use is far superior.
> >
> > Question is - I have to use OSSLinux for sound card purposes. With SuSE I
> > used to be able to amend /sbin/init.d/boot.local to start soundon at
> > boot time. This file doesn't seem to exist under RH. Where do you put your
> > boot preferences?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: [ILUG] Voice over IP; Esat slow
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:48:16 +0100
> From: "Jakma, Paul" <Paul.Jakma at domain compaq.com>
> To: "'cjb at domain linux.ie'" <cjb at domain linux.ie>, ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> try freephone, http://www-sop.inria.fr/rodeo/fphone/index.html.
>
> loads of different compression schemes inc. gsm for low-bandwidth 56k.
>
> -paul.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] Neomagic Graphics, Portege and Suse 6.0
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:52:12 +0100
> From: "Ruairi Roddy, The Examiner" <ruairi.roddy at domain examiner.ie>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> I'm having huge difficulty getting Suse 6.0 running on my Toshiba
> Portege laptop.
>
> * It uses the NeoMagic 128
> * I've installed the new X server
> * I've used every XF86Config file I can find on the net for it, and
> double-checked all the configs ...
> * I've stuck in clocks lines, and taken them out
> * I've used SaX, xf86config etc., etc.
> * I've been to Toshiba's unofficial Linux website, and Linux on
> laptops also.
>
> and I'm still getting my error 111. (Unable to connect to server) if
> I try and run it in SVGA. Or, the best result, I've got a blank
> screen that *looks* like a server's running. At least I think it
> does.
>
> Any kind soul out there with any experience of the Portege?
> In particular:
> * Can give me a link to the correct X for the thing
> * Can tell me how to obliterate all other Xs?
> * Direct me to making intelligent choices for setting up neomagic?
> * Calm me down?
>
> Or, failing that, can anybody tell me how to get a base X running,
> and I can figure out something else later? I'm under a little
> pressure to get this sorted.
>
> (Answering "you should have installed Red Hat" is okay, if you can
> prove it. But I'm not going to go out and re-install from scratch
> if I can fix SuSe).
>
> Best wishes,
> Ruairi
> www.examiner.ie
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Voice over IP; Esat slow
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:54:39 +0100
> From: Donncha O Caoimh <donncha.ocaoimh at domain tradesignals.com>
> To: cjb at domain linux.ie, ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <37FEE86A.425686B8 at domain tinet.ie>
>
> I was getting 4-5k a second download the rh6.1 image using ncftp and
> Surf no limits on Friday night from Esat. Finished downloading by the
> time I was back from the Comedy Club in City Limits :)
>
> Donncha.
> PS. I didn't download the whole 600 odd megs of it that night, had about
> 120 megs left when I started the download at ~ 7pm.
>
> Christian J van den Bosch wrote:
> >
> > Using esatclear.net surf nolimits, anybody have any idea why I'm only
> > getting approx 1k/sec downloading the redhat 6.1 cd image from
> > ftp.esat.net? I was getting 4k/sec at the start of the transfer but in
> > 12 hours I've only got 36 megs... at this rate the weekend will be over
> > and it'll be costing me money again before this download is done...
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] inodes
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:59:34 +0100
> From: Peter Flynn <pflynn at domain imbolc.ucc.ie>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> My newsserver (RH5.2/innd) has plenty of disk space but runs out of
> inodes. Has anyone any idea how to reformat a partition with finer
> granularity? There doesn't seem to be a HOWTO on this one...
>
> ///Peter
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: [ILUG] inodes
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:02:23 +0100
> From: "Jakma, Paul" <Paul.Jakma at domain compaq.com>
> To: "'Peter Flynn'" <pflynn at domain imbolc.ucc.ie>, ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> see man mke2fs, and try formatting with mke2fs -i 1024 for your inn spool
> fs.
>
> > My newsserver (RH5.2/innd) has plenty of disk space but runs out of
> > inodes. Has anyone any idea how to reformat a partition with finer
> > granularity? There doesn't seem to be a HOWTO on this one...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] inodes
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:09:33 -0400
> From: Wesley Darlington <wesley at domain yelsew.com>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <199910110959.KAA05053 at domain imbolc.ucc.ie>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 1999 at 10:59:34AM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote:
> > My newsserver (RH5.2/innd) has plenty of disk space but runs out of
> > inodes. Has anyone any idea how to reformat a partition with finer
> > granularity? There doesn't seem to be a HOWTO on this one...
>
> >From `man mke2fs`...
>
> -i bytes-per-inode
> Specify the bytes/inode ratio. mke2fs creates an
> inode for every bytes-per-inode bytes of space on
> the disk. This value defaults to 4096 bytes.
> bytes-per-inode must be at least 1024.
>
> Note that you will need to make a new filesystem. You can't `convert'
> an existing filesystem to one with more inodes. :-(
>
> It's probably keep your news spool on a separate partition, if
> you aren't already doing so.
>
> Wesley.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] inodes
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:34:05 +0100 (IST)
> From: Nick Hilliard <nick at domain iol.ie>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> > My newsserver (RH5.2/innd) has plenty of disk space but runs out of
> > inodes. Has anyone any idea how to reformat a partition with finer
> > granularity? There doesn't seem to be a HOWTO on this one...
>
> It would be really worth your while changing over to use CNFS instead of
> single-file-per-article. The speedup is very significant and you don't run
> out of inodes.
>
> Nick
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Neomagic Graphics, Portege and Suse 6.0
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:35:26 +0100 (IST)
> From: Dave Airlie <david.airlie at domain ul.ie>
> To: "Ruairi Roddy, The Examiner" <ruairi.roddy at domain examiner.ie>
> CC: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> >
> > and I'm still getting my error 111. (Unable to connect to server) if
> > I try and run it in SVGA. Or, the best result, I've got a blank
> > screen that *looks* like a server's running. At least I think it
> > does.
>
> That error should have little or nothing to do with the server, try just
> running X on it's own, no startx or any such crap and see what it
> produces.. the X server much be exiting with some errors ..
>
> Dave.
> >
> > Any kind soul out there with any experience of the Portege?
> > In particular:
> > * Can give me a link to the correct X for the thing
> > * Can tell me how to obliterate all other Xs?
> > * Direct me to making intelligent choices for setting up neomagic?
> > * Calm me down?
> >
> > Or, failing that, can anybody tell me how to get a base X running,
> > and I can figure out something else later? I'm under a little
> > pressure to get this sorted.
> >
> > (Answering "you should have installed Red Hat" is okay, if you can
> > prove it. But I'm not going to go out and re-install from scratch
> > if I can fix SuSe).
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Ruairi
> > www.examiner.ie
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> ------------ David Airlie, David.Airlie at domain ul.ie,airlied at domain skynet --------
> Telecommunications Research Centre, ECE Dept, University of Limerick \
> http://www.csn.ul.ie/~airlied -- Telecommunications Researcher \
> --- TEL: +353-61-202695 -----------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] [OT] Cable Internet Access
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:16:46 +0100
> From: Justin Mason <jm at domain netnoteinc.com>
> To: jmcc at domain hackwatch.com
> CC: "ilug at domain linux.ie" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> John McCormac said:
>
> > The 256k figure was mentioned as the customer bw. It was also supposed
> > to be duplex. The sever issue will be a sore one as it could
> > theoretically allow someone to run a decent local Q/Q2/Q3/TFC server
> > setup. Interestingly Cablelink is supposed to be rolling it out in the
> > Tallaght area first with the emphasis on businesss rather than domestic
> > usage.
>
> Why is that a bad thing?! ;)
>
> > In July, they said that they had completed the trials and that they
> > would initially be offering the service to commercial customers in the
> > Tallaght area and that the target group would be expanded after August
> > to include domestic customers. I'll believe it when I see it.
>
> Yeah, I'm really starting to get pissed off at both Cablelink and TE. I
> want my bandwidth!
>
> --j.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] [OT] Cable Internet Access
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:26:59 +0100
> From: John McCormac <jmcc at domain hackwatch.com>
> Organization: Hack Watch News
> To: "ilug at domain linux.ie" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
> References: <199910111116.MAA05936 at domain charon.netnoteinc.com>
>
> Justin Mason wrote:
> >
> > > In July, they said that they had completed the trials and that they
> > > would initially be offering the service to commercial customers in the
> > > Tallaght area and that the target group would be expanded after August
> > > to include domestic customers. I'll believe it when I see it.
> >
> > Yeah, I'm really starting to get pissed off at both Cablelink and TE. I
> > want my bandwidth!
>
> TE/Irk'em appear to be up to something with ADSL. I noticed some very
> interesting entries in their Zonefile for eircom.net, all with
> adsl.eircom.net in them. I'm working on the story now and it should
> appear around 1330 on the site in the sig.
>
> Regards...jmcc
> --
> ********************************************
> John McCormac * Hack Watch News
> jmcc at domain hackwatch.com * 22 Viewmount,
> Voice: +353-51-873640 * Waterford,
> BBS&Fax: +353-51-850143 * Ireland
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>
> Subject: [ILUG] [OT] article in Sunday times, tv over telephone
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:21:14 +0100
> From: Donncha O Caoimh <donncha.ocaoimh at domain tradesignals.com>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> There was an article in the business section of the Irish Times
> yesterday saying there's a company in Dublin called Genesis (something
> or other) who are 60 days away from signing an agreement with a telco to
> deliver television over normal telephone lines.
> I don't care about the TV, but the broadband internet access
> possibilities are mind boggling!
> It also works without making a phone call so it's "always on". I hope
> you don't need some exotic peripheral and Windows just to use it..
>
> Sounds too good to be true, but it was in the paper <sarcasm> so it must
> be true! </sarcasm>
>
> Donncha.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Voice over IP; Esat slow
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:21:57 +0100
> From: Justin Mason <jm at domain netnoteinc.com>
> To: cjb at domain linux.ie
> CC: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> Christian J van den Bosch said:
>
> > Using esatclear.net surf nolimits, anybody have any idea why I'm only
> > getting approx 1k/sec downloading the redhat 6.1 cd image from
> > ftp.esat.net? I was getting 4k/sec at the start of the transfer but in
> > 12 hours I've only got 36 megs... at this rate the weekend will be over
> > and it'll be costing me money again before this download is done...
>
> I think it sounds like one of those TCP rate fallback thingies. I don't
> know enough about this kind of TCP low-level implementation detail, but I
> think most TCP impls have a habit of reducing the transmission rate in
> response to packet loss... and I have observed it (esp. over modems)
> reducing the rate to a pitiful crawl. With any luck a TCP/IP guru on this
> list, of which there are a few, will step in and provide the details!
>
> Generally a re-connection fixes it -- Go!Zilla on Windoze or ncftp's
> "reget" command on UNIX will sort it. (bit late now though ;)
>
> If there's a better workaround to tune this for dialup links, I for one
> would love to hear it. It's no fun having to babysit a big FTP.
>
> --j.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: [ILUG] [OT] Cable Internet Access
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:26:31 +0100
> From: "Jakma, Paul" <Paul.Jakma at domain compaq.com>
> To: "'jmcc at domain hackwatch.com'" <jmcc at domain hackwatch.com>, ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> > TE/Irk'em appear to be up to something with ADSL. I noticed some very
> > interesting entries in their Zonefile for eircom.net, all with
> > adsl.eircom.net in them. I'm working on the story now and it should
> > appear around 1330 on the site in the sig.
> >
> > Regards...jmcc
>
> damm.... should i cancel the ISDN line i ordered?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] [OT] Cable Internet Access
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:37:03 +0100
> From: John McCormac <jmcc at domain hackwatch.com>
> Organization: Hack Watch News
> To: "ilug at domain linux.ie" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
> References: <15AD5D7936F8D21198240000F831776E3E7D6A at domain dboexc1.dbo.dec.com>
>
> "Jakma, Paul" wrote:
> >
> > > TE/Irk'em appear to be up to something with ADSL. I noticed some very
> > > interesting entries in their Zonefile for eircom.net, all with
> > > adsl.eircom.net in them. I'm working on the story now and it should
> > > appear around 1330 on the site in the sig.
> > >
> > > Regards...jmcc
> >
> > damm.... should i cancel the ISDN line i ordered?
>
> There is a hell of a difference between altering a zonefile and
> implementing ADSL. Is suppose that since Eircom has now mastered the
> former we should wish them luck with the latter. Tell them you want ADSL
> and see how they react. :-)
>
> Regards...jmcc
> --
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>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] 3c905C
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:39:09 +0100
> From: Justin Mason <jm at domain netnoteinc.com>
> To: Gavin Killen <gavin.killen at domain cr2.ie>
> CC: "'Dave Airlie'" <david.airlie at domain ul.ie>, Raymond Kelly <ray at domain phbrink.ie>,
> Liam Bedford <liam.bedford at domain wbtsystems.com>, ILUG <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> Dave said:
> > Check the 3COM website they do drivers for Linux now themselves...
>
> Anyone got a URL? I slogged through the (very image-heavy) site, bloody
> had to register and provide an email addr for their "knowledge base", and
> only got links to Don Becker's stuff.
>
> (I went via the Support link on the front page btw)
>
> --j.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] 3c905C
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:14:53 +0100 (BST)
> From: Steffen <higels at domain tcd.ie>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> Were you going to the 3com.com or the 3com.co.uk one?
> Serious difference in content...
>
> On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Justin Mason wrote:
>
> > Dave said:
> > > Check the 3COM website they do drivers for Linux now themselves...
> >
> > Anyone got a URL? I slogged through the (very image-heavy) site, bloody
> > had to register and provide an email addr for their "knowledge base", and
> > only got links to Don Becker's stuff.
> >
> > (I went via the Support link on the front page btw)
> >
> > --j.
> >
> > --
> > Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug at domain linux.ie
> > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.
> > List maintainer: listmaster at domain linux.ie
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] [Nearly OT} Stupidity of Linux?
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:20:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ronny Bangsund <fvacuum at domain yahoo.com>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> Another one who hates Linux...
> http://www.freiburg.linux.de/~unruh/Fun/stiinnsnd01001.html
>
> (Note:High bogon density!)
>
> O- nny
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [ILUG] resellers for RH6.x
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:14:21 +0100 (BST)
> From: Sean Mcgrath - Sun UK - CS - Performance Engineer <Sean.McGrath at domain Ireland.Sun.COM>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
>
> anyone the name of the sellers of RH6.x in Ballsbridge or
> anywhere in dublin ? Failing that Ireland, failing that I'll
> go to RH site itself.
>
> Sean.
> .
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: [ILUG] resellers for RH6.x
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:19:38 +0100
> From: "Breathnach, Proinnsias(Dublin)" <breatpro at domain MLE.CO.UK>
> To: "'Sean Mcgrath - Sun UK - CS - Performance Engineer'"
> <Sean.McGrath at domain Ireland.Sun.COM>
> CC: "'ILUG'" <ilug at domain linux.ie>
>
> AFAIR Beyond 2000 in Chatham Row (near Grafton St.) have just signed to
> retail RH in Ireland...
>
> They're linked to EMCEE Distribution, so we might soon see a lot of DH in
> shops ...
>
> Hope this helps :o)
>
> P
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sean Mcgrath - Sun UK - CS - Performance Engineer
> > [SMTP:Sean.McGrath at domain Ireland.Sun.COM]
> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 14:14
> > To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> > Subject: [ILUG] resellers for RH6.x
> >
> >
> > anyone the name of the sellers of RH6.x in Ballsbridge or
> > anywhere in dublin ? Failing that Ireland, failing that I'll
> > go to RH site itself.
> >
> > Sean.
> > .
> >
> >
> > --
> > Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug at domain linux.ie
> > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription
> > information.
> > List maintainer: listmaster at domain linux.ie
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] 3c905C
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:20:22 +0100
> From: Raymond Kelly <ray at domain phbrink.ie>
> To: Justin Mason <jm at domain netnoteinc.com>
> CC: Gavin Killen <gavin.killen at domain cr2.ie>, "'Dave Airlie'" <david.airlie at domain ul.ie>,
> Liam Bedford <liam.bedford at domain wbtsystems.com>, ILUG <ilug at domain linux.ie>
> References: <199910111139.MAA08393 at domain charon.netnoteinc.com>
>
> Justin Mason wrote:
> >
> > Dave said:
> > > Check the 3COM website they do drivers for Linux now themselves...
> >
> > Anyone got a URL? I slogged through the (very image-heavy) site, bloody
> > had to register and provide an email addr for their "knowledge base", and
> > only got links to Don Becker's stuff.
>
> http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
>
> Is this waht you're looking for ??
>
> Ray ...
>
> --
> Raymond Kelly: ray at domain phbrink.ie: Systems Administrator:
> PH Brink International, Ballybrit Business Park, Galway, Ireland:
> TEL: +353 91 771181: Mobile: +353 87 2886761 (Caller ID only):
> http://www.linux.ie/linux-ie-people.html#RayKelly
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] resellers for RH6.x
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:19:46 +0100
> From: Vincent Cunniffe <vcunniff at domain arbgroup.com>
> To: ilug at domain linux.ie
> References: <199910111319.AA07007 at domain LONSF24318.MLE.CO.UK>
>
> ilug-admin at domain linux.ie wrote:
> >
> > AFAIR Beyond 2000 in Chatham Row (near Grafton St.) have just signed to
> > retail RH in Ireland...
>
> They have RH 6.0 in boxed sets on their shelves.
>
> Vin
>
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